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Re-Order *and* Edit Service History, Locally and Centrally
Hi folks. Glad to be able to join the forums. First post here. I wonder if anyone can tell me the best and most authoritative way, as of December 2024 (going into 2025), to: Re-order entries in the iDrive service history record; and Edit entries in the iDrive service history record. I’m looking for a solution that allows the records to be held: Locally, on my car’s iDrive system; and Locally, on my key fob; and Centrally, on BMW’s servers. I am doing this in preparation for a vehicle sale. Why I Am Asking / My Problem I have a full and extensive service history on my 2015 BMW 3 Series (F30) 320i M-Sport X-Drive. There are eight recorded services in the iDrive unit, which correlate to my paper records. Frustratingly though, they do not show in chronological order. Instead, here is the order in which they show: 2020 -- Official BMW service centre service. 2019 -- Official BMW service centre service. 2018 -- Official BMW service centre service. 2017 -- Official BMW service centre service. 2021 -- Independent BMW specialist service. 2022 -- Independent BMW specialist service. 2023 -- Independent BMW specialist service. 2024 -- Independent BMW specialist service. This is an odd and difficult-to-follow order, especially for a future buyer of the car. There is also a small “naming error” in one of the independent specialist entries, where they have named their business differently than they have named it in their other entries. I believe the “order problem” might have been caused by the independent specialist possibly not using an update method that is in-line with that used by BMW. Or, perhaps, they have indeed used an official system, but have not taken the time to make sure all entries are chronological. Solving the Problem: My Research So Far I have done a fair amount of online research on this topic. I have done the following searches: Google Search: “bmw idrive reorder service history” Google Search: “bmw idrive edit service history” Youtube Search: “bmw idrive reorder service history” Youtube Search: “bmw idrive edit service history” I also did a search of the forums. The results have been interesting. Service History Update Methods That I Am Aware Of From my YouTube research, there seems to be 3 main approaches to reordering and editing the service history on a BMW iDrive: Method 1 -- Offline/local only (i.e., in the car only) update method -- using BlackBox Sistemi BMW Service History Manager (“SHM”) Lite (Free) or Pro Software. Disadvantage: If the car ever goes to an official BMW service centre, and they update the service history using their official systems, all “local only” service history entries (which are not held server side, at BMW’s end) will be lost. Method 2 -- Offline/local only (i.e., in the car only) update method -- using HU Service Manager (Free) Software. Disadvantage: Same as Method 1. Method 3 -- Centralised AND local (i.e., on both BMW servers, and in my car) update method -- using official BMW online (subscription) systems and hardware. Disadvantage: Costly, time-consuming, and reliant on the technician/professional not making any mistakes or omissions when re-logging the service history. I hope I am broadly on the right track with the above summary. My Understanding On The Best Solution For My Needs In summary, I’d like my vehicle’s service history: Arranged so that it is set out chronologically, with the most recent service at the top, and then working backwards in time, as I scroll down the list. Logged centrally on BMW’s servers. Logged locally in my car’s iDrive system. Logged locally on my key fob. As far as I understand it, the only way to achieve this is to use Method 3 (above). Under Method 3, I believe that the process is as follows: Log into BMW AOS (Aftersales Online System). Only available to authorised businesses and workshops. Enter servicing information via KaSIO system. This is then uploaded to a centralised BMW server. Then: If, in KaSIO, under "Teleservices", the "Service History via Teleservices" entry says "Yes", the service history information will automatically be downloaded to the vehicle from BMW's centralised servers. This is, as far as I understand it, because the vehicle has its own telecommunications SIM card, and can receive updates of this type that way. If, in KaSIO, under "Teleservices", the "Service History via Teleservices" entry says "No", then the technician must use the ISTA system to “download” the service history to the “local” vehicle. I believe this also requires the following official hardware: a BMW ICOM Next A device. Then, I believe there are two final requirements. BMW apparently deem that only the person (or seemingly workshop) that created the original service history entries to be edited are allowed to change them. If the modification(s) to the online service history are well after the 7 day limit (or perhaps a 30 day limit?) after their original logging days, a Technical Support enquiry must be made (by the workshop) to BMW to have the records updated. If all of that is successful, the end result is that the updated service history is ultimately logged (and available for review), both centrally with BMW, and on the vehicle’s local iDrive system. My Plan I am hopeful that I can go back to my independent BMW specialist to get this done. They are one of the better ones (well-equipped and knowledgeable) in my area, and I believe they have the systems and subscriptions necessary to achieve this. I’m keen to avoid my local main dealer service centre, if at all possible, on cost grounds, and on grounds of a few disconcerting knowledge gaps they have had in the past. I may be forced to go there if my local BMW independent specialist cannot help me. Even then, I do not know if they would assist with my request. Questions Am I on the right track with my thinking here? Is there anything I have not considered? If this is going to be extremely time-consuming or costly, or with a very large chance of errors or omissions being made, I may simply accept the imperfect presentation on iDrive, as it is. Thank you so much for any opinions, views or information folks. -
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Sounds like you've not had much luck! When you say the crank has been replaced, I assume you mean crank pulley?? They're a vibration damper and not unknown to fail. Why the garage didn't listen to you when you said the clutch felt odd I do not know! Perhaps the EML is on due to Pre/Post cat sensors not tying up due to exhaust leak? -
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Yes the crank pulley and belt, because the car was shaking and couldn’t find a misfire they said that was the problem. I think at this point they are fed up of seeing me in the garage which is a little meh, also feeling like every time I leave I leave with another problem. I considered taking it to a BMW garage as there is one local to me, I just don’t want to keep throwing money at it and obviously costs at BMW are largely greater than my usual place. With it having a new EGR valve and cooler, the second garage cleaning the pipes/system I expected that it would have recovered from this EML issue. Since the new loudness mainly when EML is illuminated I wondered if maybe that could indicate where the problem lies. Maybe I need to allow her to go, I fear she’s trying to give up the ghost! 👎🏻 -
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Hi Nicole Welcome to the Forum Oh dear what a terrible tale of woe I am not a Mechanic but I am an old engineer who has maintained his and family cars for a very very long time. First the EML light. If the garage had a BMW capable dignostic reader they would have had more information, however an experienced Mechanic/Engineer should understand that a Code is an indication of the symptom not the cure. If the EGR was clogged it isn't rocket science to know that all pipework and the Inlet manifold will also be clogged and need cleaning/replacing. I am at a bit of a loss as to the Crank unless you mean the Crank Pulley and Belts were changed my question would be why? Any decent home mechanic knows to put the cluth down and if that effects noise and vibration then the issue is with the clutch/flywheel. That is a big job as it is Gearbox out so I would expect cost between £700 and £1000 at a Garage. My advice would be First, you are the only one who can decide whether to spend more of your hard earned, if you decide to stay with the car find a decent garage/mechanic Good Luck Dave -
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Hello! what engine is it? What model ? could be crank sensor, sticking throttle body, idle control valve, maf sensor…. I know as my x5 is giving me jip with similar symptoms
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